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and those directly affected for them, that's happening right now, right? >> no, it's real now. i have a client in the steel industry. there's mayhem. they have to do contracts out years in advanced. it's an impact if you're in that business, even though it's all talk mostly at this point. so there's no question a trade situation could get ugly. it already is a little ugly if you're in the commodity business -- but china has been taking advantage of countries because they don't want to take on their risks to the economies and et cetera. so you almost have to play chicken, the stage we're in now. in the industry, you're seeing the effect already. >> neil: it could work. real quick, i want to go to nancy pelosi saying if the democrats take over in the house, they're going to re-visit the tax cut thing. the same thing the president was bragging about in west virginia. she wants to change it, go after

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