years in jail, exposed to more, but that's what it will come down to if he is convicted of all of these allegations. but the conviction depends on whether or not, for the most part, because there are some documents that support the government's case. but for the most part to the conviction falls on rick gates and the job of paul manafort's lawyers which as peter doocy just told us will start in 30 minutes is to destroy him on the witness stand. >> harris: pete hegseth and i talked about this last hour, i am curious to know how important is it to know that paul manafort has dealings with the pro-russian ukrainian president who we know is as dirty as they come? >> again the judge ordered the government not to use pejorative terms about these ukrainian officials, do not call it oligarchs, called on the former president. because a judge does not want to sanitize things, but he does not want to add prejudicial term to describe him.
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