rosenstein even said it in gest, does the president say that is a guy that doesn't have any back? >> in the president's mind, yes. but to his credit, he doesn't need grounds to fire him. as long as the republican is not against public policy. he couldn't do it for an illegal reason. but he can fire him because he doesn't trust him, doesn't believe him. that's a basis for firing. >> harris: so for the president's base, they like that renegade attitude of you know what? you do deserve to have the people around you especially the leaks, the atmosphere around this president. >> a lot of people that you know and like, you and i know and like, even some in this building, have been lobbying the president do not pull this trigger -- >> half of them do -- >> until after the mid-terms. this is to goad you to firing him. firing him will be a gift to the democrats. it will look like you're trying to obstruct bob mueller's
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