lifetime appointment to the supreme court and who i now think bears the burden of disproving these allegations rather than dr. ford and miss ramirez. >> tucker: richard goodstein has thought ary lot about due process and he advised both bill and hillary clinton's campaigns. can you think of any period in american history where the presumption of innocence and due process were suspended in cases where people were accused of sexual misconduct and they were punished? >> i don't think presumption of innocence really plays a role. >> tucker: has that ever happened in american history? was there ever a time where we, like right now, said we accused him of it, and he must be guilty? of course he is guilty. >> this is not a jury, we don't have a presumption of innocence and it's certainly not a criminal proceeding where we have to prove something beyond a reasonable doubt. this is -- you're last guest said derisively, it's not a job interview. it kind of is.
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