times, the fbi, these key people, the same fbi who i think took something to the fisa court that they didn't check out themselves, those same people said we didn't think he was misleading us at all. if there was some kind of question, circle back to theo general and find out instead of using it to get the information that looks like mr. mueller was trying to get. >> one other thingng that we have to realize, jim and i have been in these interviews and testimony. there is a whole lot more that we can look at in terms of the conversations that fbi agents and previous agents have had that call into question whether they are being truthful or not than what we see with general flynn. and this logan act, it's a relic of a bygone era. it was meant and designed to say, we want to make surent you are speaking on behalf of a legitimate government. it's time that we look at this in a very different light.th >> sean: i think we have to look at in a different light. i just gave you a>> list. cheryl mills, huma abedin, all of these people who lied