extremism. his modulated tone and kind of cool cat exterior are designed to make the extreme seem downright pedestrian. it's all normal as a sunday school lesson or hot apple pie. but don't be fooled, you were too smart for that. here he is showing he's not too far from his buddy al sharpton on a hot button historical issues. >> should jefferson jackson be renamed everywhere because both -- >> i think it is the right thing to do. over time you develop the things you choose to honor and i think we know enough, especially you just look at basically -- jefferson's more problematic and of course a lot to admire and thinkings of philosophy. it is not like we are plotting him out of the history books. but maybe something -- naming something after somebody is an amount of honor.