china. talking, reflect on most of these times whether it's been democratic or republican presidents, they come back from a g20 summit with some or the of piece of paper, a declaration, in six months we will all come back together, and it really doesn't mean anything. in this case, there's some seat of the pants, and yet he's getting historic moments where people are coming to table. you're right, we have to be skeptical, we have to see what happens six months could be the road, but he -- down the road, but he continues to make progress. >> yeah, i think there's more progress on north korea. the reason is, you know, president trump being unconventional, actually broke a log jam today, and that's a really good thing as long as he can keep up the momentum. he's got to be disciplined, and he's got to keep the pressure up on north korea. we had a very effective policy through the middle of last may when we were tightening down sanctions and not letting the north koreans get away with anything. since that time trump has let off the pressure because he