that, but to appeal to the sense that men had, that they really didn't know what the script was. >> in the movie "knocked up" this woman, successful career person, meets this character who is sort of a pot-smoking loser, for the most part. >> exactly. >> but she ends up getting pregnant and staying with this guy. are you saying this is sort of an accurate description of what's going on right now? >> no, i don't know that it is. i think that movie is a fairytale for young slackers who don't know really where they're going. maybe some gorgeous young blonde will take them by the hand and show them how to grow up. that was my view of that. no, i think for the most part, women still want a man their equal, or higher. >> absolutely. >> now that 57% of women of college graduates are women, they're going to have trouble finding that. >> they're going to have a tough time finding that guy. all right, kay hymowitz. the book is called "manning up" thank you for joining us. i think a lot people will be interested in picking up that book. it is available now.