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in the country right now. and i think because -- unless iraq suddenly turns around and becomes a big zugs success, i don't think democracy will flow out of there. >> jim, you know a lot of the arab leaders personally, i know you do. when we found out through this assange thing and the big break, it didn't surprise you or me that the arab leaders would love us to knock off or do something to reduce the threat from iran, from mahmoud ahmadinejad. if we ever collaborated with the israelis would we lose all of their support? >> if israel were to attack iran it would be devastating and a disaster for the region and frankly would make no sense at all. >> they would be protecting themself from a nuclear state that hates them. it would make sense to them in that regard. >> a nuclear state it's not. we have far greater problems with iran in the region. its support for hezbollah and

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