people to be on this. >> when is the last time you heard the two words food stamps used in a debate, right, left or center? last time you heard it? >> it is say shocking amount of people who are getting that kind of assistance. >> how long ago did you hear it? >> last couple of months. a serious debate about food stamps, it's not like this is part of economic policy. you have to help people that need that kind of assistance. i don't think this is -- >> josh, you're a new breed. i haven't heard food stamps discussed, i don't see -- since the last racist guy tried to play the card. i can't remember the last time it was talked about. that's a particular tinge to it. >> the thing is, newt can't seem to come up with a way of criticizing president obama that doesn't have some race tinge to it. it's the avatar of detroit, he's the kenyan anti-colonial world view. it's like some people are not looking for trouble but trouble always finds them. maybe this isn't on purpose on newt's part but he has awfully bad luck. he can't seem to -- he can't seem to find any way to criticize president obama that doesn't have some hole, history of race tinge behind it. >> last thought. one more shot at richard.