america and for the office of the presidency. believe me, i spent my high school years in philadelphia, i visited the liberty bell many times. america's a great nation and i have complete respect for it and for its president. i was speaking about those things that the palestinians have to accept, a jewish state, the fact that the refugee problem will be resolved outside israel. we are not going to sent great grandchildren of palestinian refugees, it's crazy. everybody knows it i think it's time to say t and i think we don't want hamas. and the president said as much. >> he agrees with you about hamas. >> i think it was very important. >> why do you think he disagrees with you about the borders? he believes that with land swaps that israel can be well defended, going back to the '67 borders. what is it that divides you and barack obama? why do you think he has a different vision of what is requireded for israel's security? you don't think that he wants israel to not be able to defend himself? >> absolutely not. i think he is committed to israel security and said as much, cooperating in security areas in ways the public doesn't