you're saying that it's either/or. >> no. i'm saying a bought congress making rules is not anecdote to a subsidized cost of oil, and i'm saying all the rules in the world from a bought congress are nothing until you actually release the pressures as we saw in europe, by the way, where there's 71 miles a gallon, they also pays 12ds tos 15ds a gallon and have way more of an incentive to actually buy that car. >> no argument getting rifd the subsidies for oil makes sense. we're saying that if prices are going up you need to make sure all americans have the best vehicle possible so they're fought getting stk with high prices. >> we're saying, is the best way to make sure of that to actually release the marketplace to drive them as they did in germany or the best way, make sure americans get the best thing and trust a bunch of bought precision politicians to do it? >> two things. in europe they've had these standards for a longening time. why they have the vehicles on the road. >> the standard is not thes 15ds gas? go ahead, imogene, is that right? >> i would say $10 a gallon to
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