and not keep mounting the anti-aircraft guns on top of them. fighting phase has to go beyond libya. they've captured gadhafi and taken the city of sirte, the last holdout city and they need to use this to move on, otherwise there is a danger that the fighting will just continue. buttimistic about libya. they managed to do this. they have friends. they have experts, libyans living who can help a lot. i think they have some hope. >> thank you so much, richard eng engel. thanks for everything. the vice president joe biden responding today to the apparent death of moammar gadhafi in libya. >> nato got it right. nato got it right. and guess what, libya, gadhafi, one way or another is gone, whether he's alive or dead, he's gone. the people of libya have gotten