>> you're staying at home and watching a television you have no right to even own. that has been very powerfully, politically. but that's because that group was very easily marginalized and very easily seen as the other. if the unemployed, and particularly the chronically unemployed, can be labeled in that same way. if they can be thought of as the kind of black folks or city folks that we don't have to think of as us. then, yes, i think that strategy works. but if it's everybody. if we are the unemployed, if we are the 99% -- >> if we are the 11%, as it were. >> exactly. >> to that very good point, my hunch that americans know unemployed people, know people who haven't been able to get a job for a year. so the idea that oh, it's this other lazy person off there is not politically salable an idea as it might have been in the past. and with orrin hatch, really, you use christmas week to say, oh, those people are lazy. get to work, mr. hatch, who
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