still a great leader. i heard this from more than one person. >> really? >> yes. >> you deal with this all the time. the idea of -- >> not this specific thing. continue. >> the fact that din grich shou -- gingrich, his goal should have made this a one-day story and he didn't by any means. he inflamed it. >> the fact is this is a primary. it would take the other challengers wanting to exploit this. it cannot be that the media, as a set of organizations, media are the ones pressing this. it has to be his opponents would want to exploit it. >> in the context of the republican primary. >> they don seem at this moment. >> theat first. >> it doesn't have to be his opponents. >> everybody's releading. >> party primaries are heavily about the party, political scientists. you know this stuff better than i do. what happened to gingrich the first time around in his first
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