between 250,000 and $500,000 in a federated government obligation fund which contained mutual fund notes of politically sensitive freddie mac and fannie mae. an addendum to romney's disclosure forms say certain assets, including that federated fund were outside the scope of his blind trust. so there you have it, david, where it's clear he did have investments in freddie mac and fannie mae. and they were not in a blind trust. they were open to his involvement and knowledge. >> chris, this is the big issue. it's kind of puzzling. because he's had many years to think about this. mitt romney and his campaign can't figure out how he should talk about his own wealth. whether it's his taxes. or holdings. he should just get up and say, i have done well. i have a gazillion dollars. i don't even know how many. i have people who manage these funds for me. some are in a blind trust. some are not. i don't know what goes on. if you are telling me there's