even a guy like mccain, who basically had a reasonable immigration record, absolutely got his clock cleaned with latino voters in 2008. it was an historic 40-point gap. that's what romney's inheriting right now. that means if he's going to try to etch a sketch his way away from this in a way that doesn't alienate his base, it's almost an impossible task. his wiggle room here is very nuanced, it's very limited. >> obviously, the difference in opinion, difference of political opinion on this issue and how much wiggle room politicians have on it is determined in part by broad feelings about immigration and what the right thing is to do about them, but i wonder if this new detail that's emerged in "the washington post," that the co-author with kris kobach of the arizona law, which is the model for all of these other laws, which is before the supreme court today, before the supreme court today, i wonder if him saying it's explicitly for a racially designed outcome in the united states, in order to maximize the white population vis-a-vis, the nonwhite population, if that's potentially a political tipping point. doesn't that kind of sharpen the edges here a little bit? >> yeah, but again, you wonder,