great to have you on the show. >> thanks, mika. >> are the four? >> those are the four. >> we'll go through those. you talk to a lot of people who would know these answers. >> yeah. we spent about three years surveying about 500 entrepreneurs and global leaders in all different countries to find out what makes entrepreneurs tick and we surveyed them with what we think is the first yapty today task asking them tradeoffs and came down to heart, smarts, guts and luck that really drive their self-awareness and decision making. >> okay. by the way, before the interview is over i want to ask about the attacks on bain and private equity issue. >> can't wait. >> because in this economy -- i would like to hear it -- these are the characteristics that you think could make or break or could just put someone over the top in terms of success? >> everyone first off, the underlying quality of any leader or any entrepreneur's self-awareness and what you need is a baseline of all four of these traits.