really lonely, is because they want to try to get, put this issue of the differences on medicare behind them. that says to me, i certainly don't compare ryan to sarah palin, but again, there's this -- it's not just a do no harm, you have to be able to move the ball down the field past the first 48, 78 hours and keep that momentum going. >> it feels like the other thing going here at the end of the news cycle, friday night, is the tax returns. so now we've got ryan, right, showing up with two years of tax returns, paying at least a 15% rate. when you read ryan's tax returns, man, he's downright middle class compared to his running mate. so again you stay on the side -- >> the higher tax rate again than mitt romney and trying to justify it by saying, i think he was saying romney has already paid. he's paying taxes twice because he earned it as income and is doing it, but that's not true because of the carried interest loophole on the private equity stuff, most of romney's earnings
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