i've got a guy down there that's telling me he's a victim. okay? >> that's up to you. what i'm saying, why you got to go interview tapes or keep me in here longer? >> you're looking at 30 days in here. >> i know. >> you're not helping me out in this situation. i'm here to help you and listen to what you've got to tell me. what you're saying has nothing -- is not even jiving with this thing here. you've got nothing else to add to this thing? >> nope. >> okay. i'll have a determination made by the end of the day. >> a short time later, kunkel asks to speak with shamrock again. >> when i came back and spoke with him, he told me, he said, i was involved in a fight. i asked him where he got the scratches from his face. he said the other guy hit me a couple times but it was mutual and right now it's quashed. so he really doesn't have any issues with the guy right now. coming up -- maricopa special response team attempts to recover a homemade cuff key from an inmate considered to be especially