-- >> all i know, joan, every college, every university, every hospital, has a building program. they come to you every year. it's called their capital campaign. they build stuff. that's why schools get bigger like georgetown over here. why doesn't the united states government build anything? >> i want to be clear, and i know nira knows this, too. the president cannot do this on his own. he can't build the buildings on his own, chris, and can't get the money out of congress to do it. i really don't want to be someone who's saying, he can do this, he's just not trying. he's not using his bully pulpit as effectively as he could. he's not articulating what our -- i'm a democrat -- what our agenda as democrats is going to be to give people a reason to come out and turn out these republicans in 2014 and 2016. that's the only thing to do at this point. he cannot build a railroad or a college, himself. i have to say that. >> you know what my speech is at every college graduation, make them say no. if you're a minority going for a job and a minority has never