changed. >> has your mind-set changed about him, is he now more whistle-blower than a hacker? is he a patriot? >> no, yox mr. snowden was a patriot. as i said in my opening remarks, i called for a thorough review of our surveillance operations before mr. snowden made these leaks. >> joining me, republican congressional reporter ed o'keefe, and "chicago sun-times" lynn. the president and chuck todd, the president denying snowden forced the issue, saying he was planning all along. julian assange laughed off the statement in which he said in part, "the simple fact that without snowden's disclosures, no one would know about the programs and no reforms could take place." lynn do you buy the president's argument this was the plan all along? >> i don't buy that he was going