i like campaigns that matter. everybody's not asleep. they pay attention. they pick up the tabs. they get a sense of who the best person is. and they really do make a spontaneous, exciting, dynamic decision to go in a certain direction, and they don't vote for the jokes, for example just out of weirdness. your thoughts. >> absolutely. in the polls that you mentioned, when wiener was ahead, the person in second place was christine quinn who ended up in third. >> yeah. how'd that happen? >> there's an idea originally that the choices between this big personality, anthony wiener, and this continuation of bloomberg's new york, christine quinn, who was a city council member, it could be that the wiener scandal shook things up enough that people listened to the whole range of candidates