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interrupted from ukraine. >> joining me now, oil trader dan dicker, author of "oil's endless bid." i want to talk about why this is a bad argument because despite the fact your appearance on this show refuting it happened last week, people are still making it which i can't make heads nor tails of. quickly, it's amazing to me this guy from the coal state is saying, frack more, drill everywhere, which is killing coal in kentucky. >> unless rand paul wants to see exxon or chevron become state-run entities, you have to do something that's profitable in order to get them to do it. transporting lng to europe is so intensely unprofitable. it looks like it should be profitable, and it might be right now, but the chances of the expense that you're going to take on to try and build these export plans, and then finally get to a market state seven or eight years down the road -- >> yes. >> -- where it works and you can make this money back over the

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