consequen conscientious objection, and we know the conversation going on, even some businesses being required if objectionable to their faith, to provide contraception to their employees. >> it's a major fundamental issue, and it certainly has been no -- -- the contraception man dade, the legitimate issue of rights, these are fundamental, so i'm not surprised these things came up today. >> and also the other issue of immigration reform, i think many people anticipated that as well. we are looking at a stalemate politically, but it's interesting that the holy father brought this up in his conversation with the president.
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