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governors chose not to expand medica medicaid. i wonder if you think new numbers will put increased pressure on those governors if change may be afoot in those states this year. >> rick perry suddenly going to cave in texas? >> maybe not. rick perry is his own special case with his own special pair of glasses. but other governors in states where there could be more of a popular outtry cai about medicate and people who want, need and deserve coverage. >> i think time puts pressure on that. like sam was saying as more law gets into play and it is not as scary as some people worry about. people will likely come to accept. the current negatives come largely from again last year when suddenly americans found out they can't always keep their doctor or their insurance. >> the president sold this stuff on false premises. but over time, that stuff fades and this stuff will sort out and that pressure will remain in

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