hillary clinton to run for president. >> that's fine. >> i think if -- >> she should go for it. they're all so intimidated. >> there's no doubt that if secretary clinton decides not to run that she will become the democratic front runner, i think. >> chuck, chuck, chuck? >> no. >> you think she should follow in barack obama's footsteps, take on the invincible hillary clinton. you have to beat someone. >> chuck? >> look, i don't buy the idea that all of a sudden elizabeth warren is a front runner. i think she would be a player. but don't underestimate joe biden if hillary doesn't run. there's a lot of sort of democratic establishment vote that is simply with hillary clinton in a lot of these polls. if she were out of the race, i guarantee you biden would be up 15 points on elizabeth warren in the same poll if you didn't have her just simply out of name recognition, loyalty to the party on that front. and i just -- you know, what i'm