>> let me go to mr. meek. we have an adversarial system. prosecutors prosecute. both this case and ferguson, the one similarity is it looks like, i'm not sure, that both prosecutors didn't want to prosecute. they didn't believe there was even probable cause anything was done wrong. how do they explain their behavior in this case? in both cases? >> i think that has to be part of the federal investigation also. because clearly, the d.a. controlled the process. as mr. rangel has indicated. we're both former prosecutors. when you're in with a grand jury, you present your witness. generally when you allow someone to come in to testify who is the defendant, it is really to get a transcript so you could use against him or her at trial. so, afterwards, you ask the grand jury for an indictment. we do need transcripts. i would like to know whether mr. donavan asked for an indictment after the conclusion of presenting the case to the grand jury.