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things can't get mixed up. i think that roush term -- >> you didn't like the roush test at all. >> but this is different. hillary is like the cornea transplant you didn't know you had. she's been in your vision since 1990. the tammy wynette interview was in february of 1992. she's been there since then. that's not about being a sale-by date, that's just weariness. >> i had clinton people say, here is what that also means. there is a whole slew of americans who are going to vote for first time for her, who never had to vote for bill clinton. that could be an asset. >> i think you talk about stale, i would say the republican party has been very stale, not been willing to expand, so, i mean, where do they stand on the roush test? >> that's what we did. went through the whole thing. that's a big problem for a guy named jeb bush who has the same issue. before we go, a big news this week, we're all -- we have friendly competition between the sunday shows. bob schieffer's announcing his retirement.

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