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things can't get mixed up. i think that roush term -- >> you didn't like the roush test at all. >> but this is different. hillary is like the cornea transplant you didn't know you had. she's been in your vision since 1990. the tammy wynette interview was in february of 1992. she's been there since then. that's not about being a sale-by date, that's just weariness. >> i had clinton people say, here is what that also means. there is a whole slew of americans who are going to vote for first time for her, who never had to vote for bill clinton. that could be an asset. >> i think you talk about stale, i would say the republican party has been very stale, not been willing to expand, so, i mean, where do they stand on the roush test? >> that's what we did. went through the whole thing. that's a big problem for a guy named jeb bush who has the same issue. before we go, a big news this week, we're all -- we have friendly competition between the sunday shows. bob schieffer's announcing his retirement.
candidate. hillary clinton is a low trust candidate. bill clinton is a lower trust candidate. if trust is the issue and look at syria or libya, you say, bill clinton is not an asset if trust is an issue. >> david axelrod said, he compared bill clinton to nuclear energy. a little bit is really good, but it could be radioactive and explosive in a hurry. >> he's a total winner on the message. he's a great politician. great messenger. the substance is the interesting thing for me. bill clinton was a moderate democrat. sister soldier moments. that democratic party doesn't exist anymore. so how does hillary clinton move off the clinton economic policies of the 1990s. >> the left wants her to go left and, you're right, the middle somewhere else. another issue, the roush rule, jonathan roush, long time colleague of mine at national journal, now at brookings, he came up and said, candidates for president, they all get elected if they have been in the arena for 14 years or less. and 14 years is sort of your sell by date. that's your expiration date.
>> what we have hopefully done in this case. i do think it is hard to know, i do know the police when i was covering them, big city, like chicago, and they do something bad, they cover it up. and -- >> with a lot of pot lines, we know this. it is everybody's instinct. >> i'm much more ambivalent on the cop cams. i support them, because i think they are for the truth. but i think there is going to be a lot be lost. most of what cops do is not big capturing a felon. it is getting somebody's home, in their private life at the worst moment of their life, in domestic violence, if there are cameras on there, that we can trust, if those cameras -- if those videos go on youtube, as they will -- >> i know. that's the other thing. i can picture supreme court case coming where we have this issue on sort of the camera being an illegal search and seizure. >> but if it is that -- or somebody getting somebody shot, we have to have the dialogue, which is what we're doing, which is great. >> and work the issues out will you be able to pay for all the cameras? >> the feds have to participate