party and many of its candidates is we're not doing a very good job of kind of being respectful in this conversation with the big donors. it's done in such a gaudy and public way, but we also have our -- our big donors on the right who are more libertarian so i'm not sure it's all coming from the one side. >> why are they all hawks? >> i don't think that's right. >> there's plenty of libertarian. >> name knee a dove? >> peter dove the koch brothers. >> the koch brothers are doves, i didn't hear that before. >> my party is a party that is trying to find its way back on these sets of issues. ronald reagan said peace through strength and they are looking at what they got in the latter years of the bush administration, and they are rethinking, so i think your interview with rand paul really shows that this is a conversation the republican party is currently having. >> do you think ronald reagan would have taken us into iraq? >> are you asking me that? >> yes, matt. >> yeah, i don't. i actually don't. >> we agree on that. you learned something at notre dame. that's so proving of that point.