have. and she is as highly public a figure and a spokesperson or symbol for this type of change and for people widening their horizons. laverne cox, who is an actress on "orange is the new black" is another person who has been out there for the last couple of years really being a tremendous role model. my kids love her, not because of the show but they see her as being a new type of hero talking about defining your own identity which is an important issue for young he people these days as well. so seeing caitlyn jenner out there, laverne cox, it's really quite, i think, inspiring to see their courage. >> first they ignore you. then they laugh at you. and then they attack you. and then you win. it's so true of life. thank you, david corn. we're going to learn. learning is the best part of life. >> she looks beautiful, doesn't she? >> jennice, thank you. i may not go that far but i do
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