president. >> nbc's barry bacon joins me live from washington, d.c. perry, there has long been this draft biden movement out there. is this news sending them into hyper drive and also the reaction, if there has been one, from the clinton camp? >> the draft biden folks are very excited. the clinton people have been -- not given much comment so far. they've said look we're pretty confident. we don't think joe biden is going to run and we think hillary clinton is still in a strong position. i would say, i spent a lot of people talking to democrats around the country the last day and a half. i'm finding very little support for joe biden. people are very -- i talked to even democrats who don't like clinton are very respectful of biden. he's a great vice president, a great senator, but there's no real hunger at least from what i've heard so far, to see a biden presidential campaign. a lot of democrats like hillary clinton. the rest of them want a more populous style figure like bernie sanders, elizabeth