>> i would love to see joe get in the race. >> because? >> go for it, joe. he tried twice before. he obviously is interested. i think there is a lot of support for him in the democratic party and i think it would stir things up. they are short candidates on their side. >> i'm joined by the round table msnbc david corn the washington burro chief and michelle bernard is the president for the public policy and paul singer washington correspondent for usa today. the game here, we know what is going on. joe bide season calling around and asking democrats is there room for me. the clinton campaign wants them to say no, sorry, she's got the numbers and there is something in it for us. is that the message after what the clintons have done in the last week? is that the message democrats will deliver to joe biden? >> it's the message that the hilary campaign is trying to deliver, i am here and strong and it's a big fight. now there are a lot of