particularly effective way to terrorize through very simple means. they have mastered this over the past couple of years. as opposed to a spectacular attack. think of 9/11. they've put out these beheading videos which are really uniquely horrifying and they have chosen to go after soft targets, not the kinds of places -- not the world trade center, not the main tourist sites, not the historical sites but the every day, the ordinary. the idea is to terrorize, the idea is to make people feel insecure in every day life as you put it. >> hillary, how does the united states and allies and french go about when it comes to these soft targets and our anti-terror campaign? >> well, there is a long track record, not just with isis but al qaeda before it, not just about the world trade center but with the london tube, the london subway system, the spanish subway system. these groups deliberately targeting these types of sites in order to put pressure on