car on my way to a baseball game with my two kids and my spouse. i could not have -- i could not talk about why i was gasping. why -- i could not speak about the presidential race any more in front of my kids. when you hit a moment like that, but realize it felt different. >> i hav a son and daughter and thought how in the world do i explain this to them. >> unexplainable. >> he's lost any type of moral authority to lead. and that's a part of the presidency. and you know, it is -- look, this was a -- this is on a level we've not seen before. >> i mean, that is -- in large part what the oval office stands