turned off. that exact idea, election stress and how people are ready for this thing to be over. when you look at the pessimism that we're talking about here, can somebody like a paul ryan -- coming in to 2017, can somebody like some of the younger democratic leaders as well, can they work together? one of the things people hate about washington is the gridlock. is that going to go anywhere? >> i don't think paul ryan will do it. he will be under pressure as he has been from republicans who are total rejectionists, hate hillary clinton, hate anything the democrats do. he will have a smaller majority in the house assuming he still has one. he will need the members of the caucus to build a majority. he will be under pressure to be uncooperative. >> i think it will be worse than the obama years. there are people in congress waiting for hillary clinton to make her life a living hell and certain they can't get anything done. i don't know how someone comes in and tries to bring people together for soul searching after an election like this. it seeps completely impossible to me. >> we had an ambitious goal of