at goldman sachs since donald trump was elected president. >> it was a headline in the "huffington post"s, a large number of openings at goldman sac sachs. >> what about this guy? i have not talked to anybody that has not said he is extraordinarily capable, and of course jon meacham, it goes against the populist in a major way, but, again, goes back to the ike model, i am going to get business people to run the government. >> mika's suggestion, i sent my book over on the south sea bubble. can i ask a quick question of richard and mika because you lived through this, and one of the things about foreign policy is it's not shape by one person but a ecosystem, and what is your sense of tillerson, flynn