have some moral compass. >> joining me is author of the brand-new book out tomorrow, "audacity" and we'll talk about that in a moment. i want to get to the book. first, this idea of this sort of war on the press. >> right. >> i think it sort of psychs some people out in the press. you do your job on a first level order and the chips may fall where they may. >> trump keeps doing things that you don't know how it's going to play out. you don't know if we'll look back and say this was the first step towards some putin-esque strong man move where the world is transformed or if it's an incremental of the old nixonian. my guess is the latter. because they need the mainstream press. they are at or under 40% now. they can't just talk to people