some with strong support. you've got some with strong oppositi opposition, you've got some that are in the middle. if you average these altogether, it really looks about 50/50, it really looks like kind of looks like the election. it looks like about half on this side and about half on that side. if you want -- if you want to support the white house on this one, you've got polls that you can tout. if you want to oppose the white house on this one, you've got polls you can tout. if you add them up altogether, it's a divided country. maybe the best we can say on public opinion on this, at least, right now. most important number of the day today. it is eight, quick break here. the debate over the travel ban. it is the main event tonight on hardball with chris matthews, the attorney general of washington state know what he is going to square off with harvard law professor allen. that is tonight, 7:00. the solicitor general, my apologies there. still ahead on our show, nordstrom, the department store, they are firing back after president trump slammed their decision to drop ivanka trump's