but it australia a child of the 9/11 commission to look at wmd and terrorism and how we could prevent terrorists from getting wmd. you need a bipartisan commission, republicans and democrats selected by the leadership of the house and the senate to do the work. because, honestly, even the senate, the intelligence committee, the select intelligence committee for 9/11, even they were politicized. and number one, they couldn't share everything for intelligence reasons. but number two, they were because of their positions constrained. and the president could always say to the people in his party, why are you guys doing that? if you have a truly independent commission, then paul ryan can't get those phone calls in the middle of the night from president trump saying why are you letting those investigators say that or do that. he can say that's an independent commission. >> the 9/11 commission is the model. >> tremendous burden on any one person. all right. a pause in our conversation. when we come back, we're going to concentrate more on the trump business tie, specifically what