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little bit light into the department of homeland security may not be completely on board to this. the fact that 12 days ago ap basically leaked a document saying that the homeland security had found that there was no significant threat by any of these seven countries listed demonstrates maybe they're not lock step and center with the administration but feel they have so because they have to enforce the laws. >> maria, thank you so much for that, norm, thank you as well. ari melber and pete williams and chris jansing for helping me out during this hour of "msnbc live." you can find me on twitter, facebook and instagram and on snapchat. right now on msnbc, "andrea mitchell reports." >> thank you very much. breaking news, travel ban 2.0. just moments ago the white house rolling out a new version of the president's most controversial executive order. but this time without the president in the room, no pictures of him at all signing

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