the carpet. what i say is i think richard is right about the normalization j but it's about the margin alizing of the lives of people of colors that i think those choices need to be challenged even in the media. >> one thing is for sure. our country is not a post racial country. we have a disease of white supremacy in our society that plays itself in subtle ways. it seems to be that when there's white attackers, white folks get the benefit of the doubt, and they're talked about as being anomalies or they somehow are not seen, but then when a person of color doesn't attack, it gets blown up in the media. they're all 100% seen, and then at the time, it's used as a type of means of trying to talk about a grown. it goes back to white privilege and how white folks get the