totally different person. even to speak and communicate with. he's not the same person that we initially had when he first came in. i think actually one of the real breaking points was getting him to communicate with staff and his family members. for a long time he wasn't communicating with anybody, and we ended up when he was in administrative seg, getting it to where he was able to have visits with his family, and that really seemed to be the turning point. things started changing. he was no longer attempting some of those negative behaviors we were seeing earlier. >> i'm getting ready to do a visit. that's the highlight of the week. so to speak. >> 2:00 for dustin paul. >> the person who visits paul the most is the woman who helped raise him. his grandmother sheila. >> i'm sure you hear this from every grandmother, but he is a real good-hearted kind person and never was in trouble his whole life. never even got in a fight in school.
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