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real good-hearted kind person and never was in trouble his whole life. never even got in a fight in school. but i think basically there was a substance abuse periodically through the years. that's what caused this behavior. >> me and my grandmother are really close. she's like a second mom to me, basically. my grandmother. >> we've always been very close. very close. >> though his grandmother has arrived in person to visit -- >> there he is. hey, dusty. >> even at the jail visitation is conducted through a video link between the housing unit and a visitor center. >> so here's the news of the week. right after i left for a few hours i started choking really hard, like i couldn't breathe. so i went to emergency, and i was there for four days. >> hmm. >> so they diagnosed me with pneumonia, copd, congestive heart failure.
real good-hearted kind person and never was in trouble his whole life. never even got in a fight in school. but i think basically there was a substance abuse periodically through the years. that's what caused this behavior. >> me and my grandmother are really close. she's like a second mom to me, basically. my grandmother. >> we've always been very close. very close. >> though his grandmother has arrived in person to visit -- >> there he is. hey, dusty. >> even at the jail visitation is conducted through a video link between the housing unit and a visitor center. >> so here's the news of the week. right after i left for a few hours i started choking really hard, like i couldn't breathe. so i went to emergency, and i was there for four days. >> hmm. >> so they diagnosed me with pneumonia, copd, congestive heart failure. >> really? >> yeah.
every grandmother, but he is a real good-hearted kind person and never was in trouble his whole life. never even got in a fight in school. but i think basically there was a substance abuse periodically through the years. that's what caused this behavior. >> me and my grandmother are really close. she's like a second mom to me, basically. my grandmother. >> we've always been very close. very close. >> though his grandmother has arrived in person to visit -- >> there he is. hey, dusty. >> even at the jail visitation is conducted through a video link between the housing unit and a visitor center. >> so here's the news of the week. right after i left for a few hours i started choking really hard, like i couldn't breathe. so i went to emergency, and i was there for four days. >> hmm. >> so they diagnosed me with pneumonia, copd, congestive heart failure. >> really?
totally different person. even to speak and communicate with. he's not the same person that we initially had when he first came in. i think actually one of the real breaking points was getting him to communicate with staff and his family members. for a long time he wasn't communicating with anybody, and we ended up when he was in administrative seg, getting it to where he was able to have visits with his family, and that really seemed to be the turning point. things started changing. he was no longer attempting some of those negative behaviors we were seeing earlier. >> i'm getting ready to do a visit. that's the highlight of the week. so to speak. >> 2:00 for dustin paul. >> the person who visits paul the most is the woman who helped raise him. his grandmother sheila. >> i'm sure you hear this from every grandmother, but he is a real good-hearted kind person and never was in trouble his whole life. never even got in a fight in school.
a less restrictive housing unit. >> everybody thought that there's no way we're going to change his behavior. and to see him today, he's a totally different person. even to speak and communicate with. he's not the same person that we initially had when he first came in. i think actually one of the real breaking points was getting him to communicate with staff and his family members. for a long time he wasn't communicating with anybody, and we ended up when he was in administrative seg, getting it to where he was able to have visits with his family, and that really seemed to be the turning point. things started changing. he was no longer attempting some of those negative behaviors we were seeing earlier. >> i'm getting ready to do a visit. that's the highlight of the week. so to speak. >> 2:00 for dustin paul. >> the person who visits paul the most is the woman who helped raise him. his grandmother sheila. >> i'm sure you hear this from every grandmother, but he is a real good-hearted kind person and never was in trouble his whole life. never even got in a fight in
never even got in a fight in school. but i think basically there was a substance abuse periodically through the years. that's what caused this behavior. >> me and my grandmother are really close. she's like a second mom to me, basically. my grandmother. >> we've always been very close. very close. >> though his grandmother has arrived in person to visit -- >> there he is. hey, dusty. >> even at the jail visitation is conducted through a video link between the housing unit and a visitor center. >> so here's the news of the week. right after i left for a few hours i started choking really hard, like i couldn't breathe. so i went to emergency, and i was there for four days. >> hmm. >> so they diagnosed me with pneumonia, copd, congestive heart failure. >> really? >> yeah. they're going to monitor me real closely. >> that is not good.
police going over the line they have the hardest job on the country. >> what do you tell your son? >> be respectful to people. if you're disrespectful, there are going to be consequences. the good thing, for the most part he's a tremendous kid. you know can be a knucklehead from time to time. >> did you tell him -- a lot of people don't know your story. you grew up in harlem on the wrong side of the tracks. did you ever tell him because your skin color you might be targeted. it doesn't mean you're going to be shot at. what did you do? >> i never told him that. i will admit that where he lives, he has never seen a fight in school. whereas i've -- when i went to school in harlem there were like, seven fiethsghts a day. >> you started them. >> or i was running from him. seven a day. he grew up in a non-violent environment. when someone like mark cuban
person and never was in trouble his whole life. never even got in a fight in school. but i think basically there was a substance abuse, periodically, through the years. that's what caused his behavior. >> me and my grandmother are really close. she's like a second mom to me, basically. my grandmother. >> we've always been very close. very close. >> though his grandmother arrived in person to visit. >> hey, dusty. >> even at the jail, visitation is conducted through a video link between the housing unit and a visitor center. >> here's the news of the week. right after i left you, a few hours i started choking really hard, like -- couldn't breathe. so i went to emergency, and i was there for four days. >> hmm. >> so they diagnosed me with pneumonia, copd, congestive heart failure. >> really? >> yeah. they're going to monitor me real closely.
whole life. never even got in a fight in school. but i think basically there was a substance abuse periodically through the years. that's what caused this behavior. >> me and my grandmother are really close. she's like a second mom to me, basically. my grandmother. >> we've always been very close. very close. >> though his grandmother has arrived in person to visit -- >> there he is. hey, dusty. >> even at the jail visitation is conducted through a video link between the housing unit and a visitor center. >> so here's the news of the week. right after i left for a few hours i started choking really hard, like i couldn't breathe. so i went to emergency, and i was there for four days. >> hmm. >> so they diagnosed me with pneumonia, c.o.p.d., congestive heart failure. >> really? >> yeah. they're going to monitor me real