with ivanka or his children. the author, walter shap ear audio is with us here in the studio. he is a long time journalist. worked for years at u.s.a. today, these years a columnist for with call. so, tell us about this. why are you convinced his life will come to a screeching halt? and what about his life has reached out to you? >> what about -- first of all, what i'm really extrapolaing from is the experience that people had in the carter -- the clinton administration during whitewater and to come extent the bush administration during the vallerie plane investigation. that even just being ensnared in an fbi investigation, bag person of interest, being asked to assist the authorities in their inquiries means that you are constantly worried that a false