experiences are lying. >> right. >> and he's pretty much has proof of that so far. >> well, look, lawrence, i've been watching both rachel's show and this show. and you guys have pointed out correctly if there is a contest of veracity and a contest of evidence what has always seemed to be so important, and i'll get to this in a second, but comey's contporaneous notes and all the people he toldn realtime about this meeting he had with trump and all the meetings and conversations he had with trump. it seems to me they are fighting a very lopsided war against comey here on the question of who is to be believed, who is more credible. and i think the main thing we learned today, and david just sort of hinted at this, right, it almost doesn't matter whether donald trump was being investigated in connection with the collusion case back in january, in february, in march. what matters is we learned today by inference and by very strong suggestion from comey that he is currently under investigation by robert mueller for on instruction of justice almost