for russia and maybe great for people in the rest of the world. americans who are really interested, like my two colleagues here on this panel, didn't get any answers. we didn't get any answers whatsoever. is putin going to have to answer for what he did? does president trump really believe that this election hacking happened? but for the people who don't care, they got a great picture of them kind of like wrapping it up. okay, that was too bad about that. let's move on. >> i mean i guess, i mean, ambassador, yeah, some people don't care by definition. then i guess -- >> well, they should care. >> they might not see the photo in the first place. but last time i checked, the american public does have issues with russia. i suppose some of the partisan lines of this are changing if putin is a stand-in for the republican party, but that shift