>> he certainly can pardon himself to avoid impeachment. i don't think the president can pardon himself even from prosecution. i know there is a debate about that. that's my reading of it. it would in effect nullify other parts of the constitution, if you interpret it in a way that would allow him to pardon himself. the bigger fear, though, is that he pardons other people as a way of discouraging their cooperation with bob mueller or with congress. and that is really a worry. the more profound concern, frankly, and i think it's implicated in this latest shakeup and crisis, and that is the president doesn't have people around him to, you know, talk sense to him about our system of checks and balances. he's got some very good people in the national security realm and people like mcmaster and t mattis. but in terms of the justice department, he obviously doesn't trust the attorney general. there is no one really that has the kind of standing with him to