ask yourself where does it stop. you're changing history. you're changing culture. and you have people -- and i'm not talking about the neo-nazis and the white nationalists because they should be condemned totally. but crow had many people in that group other than neo-nazis and white nationalists okay, and the press has treated them absolutely unfairly. >> joining us now, a pulitzer prize winning historian. he's a professor of history at columbia university. professor, it just made me wonder today where would we be if robert e. lee had been convicted of treason. we don't have any stutes in this country to anyone who has been convicted of treason. >> one of the reasons grant did mott want him tried is it would have made him a martyr in the south, which in a sense he became any way. people in the north were not that interested in treason trials after the civil war. they were interested in what was going to happen to the 4 million
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